Delivering in the dark IS a safety issue. Where are their union stewards? There are guidelines to follow to cover their asses. The only way to force management to fix the problem is to REFUSE to work unsafely.
I've been delivering mail for almost 28 years, and I never have nor will I EVER deliver after dark !!! I am not disgruntled, I'm disgusted, disappointed and disheartened with the U.S.P D. = US Postal Dis-Service. Service- not ! Efficiency- please don't make me laugh. 3 Biggest lies, (1) volume is down, (2)automation will make your job easier,(3)automation will allow you to do your job more efficiently, these even beat ,"your check is in the mail". Sad very sad. Glad I'm out in 5 years.
Me deliver in the dark??? No way! Yes, winter is here even in the Pacific District...however, if I know I can't complete my appointed rounds by DARK, the remaining mail will be returned to the station! I have NEVER been disciplined for this, even though all of my brothers and sisters on the big OT list have been forced to deliver mail in the DARK! Go figure...and also go screw yourself management that wants to have me work unsafe....I WILL NOT DO IT!
I'm somewhat envious of the above carriers who refuse to work in the dark, return with the undelivered mail and don't face retribution for doing so. Here in the Northeast, we are regularly forced to work in the dark. If we bring mail back we face discipline.period.
The obvious solution would be to start carriers earlier. That was tried, but unfortunately the morons running the Post Office failed to start the mail processing operations earlier too. The end result was the carriers had to wait around for the DPS & parcels from the plant, making the earlier start a futile gesture. The carrier start times were pushed back.
And these same morons running the show still seem to believe they deserve a bonus.What an organization.....
You whiners are lucky you don't work for UPS...delivering after dark??? Huh....that's a common thing. And don't think of bringing any packages back. Go out, do your route, do it efficiently, and come back after you are finished....what's so difficult!
whah whah wha, I can't deliver after dark cuz the boogie man might get me, whah whah wha. Bunch of wimps, here at Fed Ex WE DELIVER UNTIL THE JOB IS DONE. That means after dark you bunch of cry baby losers. Get a real job
City carriers have to walk between houses in the slums. They don't run back and forth to the truck as UPS and Fed Ex do. Most of the Fed Ex drivers are part-time, here today and gone tomorrow.
It's easy enough to deliver with a dome light and headlights you overpaid pussies. Try walking block after block in the dark. We've got carriers that can run rings around you.
I agree with the anonymous person above the problem is the DPS and parcels. It makes no sense to bring in carriers early if there is no mail to prepare. This change has to come nationally to the Areas and District offices. The Postal Service refuses to hire people because it is trying to save money. They may or may not be doing that but they are certainly upsetting carriers and customers. the UPS and Fed-ex people above do not understand the complexities of delivering mail in the night. Safety and efficiency are involved. These two factors are a concern to carriers. Carriers with park-and loop routes do not have the safety of their vehicles to jump in such as our competitors. Customers are generally not upset when packages are delivered to them late. They are when it's the mail though. Customers expect mail everyday not packages.
7 Years and OUT of Here, I can't belive the P.O. has the best interest of the public in mind I think they are trying to get the public so pissed they will let them privitize. I think the best way to fight this is to have the public contact tier congressmen and senators, AND newspapers. Postal management hates publicity on the local level
Like we said, UPS and FedEx have the benefit of their lighted vehicles and do what - 1 or two houses on a block? Take my mail (two bundles) and try delivering two blocks - both sides - in the dark and then tell me how easy it is.
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Delivering in the dark IS a safety issue. Where are their union stewards? There are guidelines to follow to cover their asses. The only way to force management to fix the problem is to REFUSE to work unsafely.
I've been delivering mail for almost 28 years, and I never have nor will I EVER deliver after dark !!! I am not disgruntled, I'm disgusted, disappointed and disheartened with the U.S.P D. = US Postal Dis-Service. Service- not ! Efficiency- please don't make me laugh. 3 Biggest lies, (1) volume is down, (2)automation will make your job easier,(3)automation will allow you to do your job more efficiently, these even beat ,"your check is in the mail". Sad very sad. Glad I'm out in 5 years.
and to think I saw a mandate that the Pacific VP sent done a couple of months ago...carriers off the street by 1700.....
I agree with 9:59...
I only got 3 years to go...
I'v NEVER delivered in the dark...
Our postmaster is great...
Me deliver in the dark??? No way! Yes, winter is here even in the Pacific District...however, if I know I can't complete my appointed rounds by DARK, the remaining mail will be returned to the station!
I have NEVER been disciplined for this, even though all of my brothers and sisters on the big OT list have been forced to deliver mail in the DARK! Go figure...and also go screw yourself management that wants to have me work unsafe....I WILL NOT DO IT!
DPS = later starting times; therefore later return times.
Consumers want cheaper Services...
What do you Expect, they make cuts on employee roles!
You cannot have your "Cake & eat it Too" People !
I'm somewhat envious of the above carriers who refuse to work in the dark, return with the undelivered mail and don't face retribution for doing so. Here in the Northeast, we are regularly forced to work in the dark. If we bring mail back we face discipline.period.
The obvious solution would be to start carriers earlier. That was tried, but unfortunately the morons running the Post Office failed to start the mail processing operations earlier too. The end result was the carriers had to wait around for the DPS & parcels from the plant, making the earlier start a futile gesture. The carrier start times were pushed back.
And these same morons running the show still seem to believe they deserve a bonus.What an organization.....
You whiners are lucky you don't work for UPS...delivering after dark??? Huh....that's a common thing. And don't think of bringing any packages back. Go out, do your route, do it efficiently, and come back after you are finished....what's so difficult!
whah whah wha, I can't deliver after dark cuz the boogie man might get me, whah whah wha. Bunch of wimps, here at Fed Ex WE DELIVER UNTIL THE JOB IS DONE. That means after dark you bunch of cry baby losers. Get a real job
City carriers have to walk between houses in the slums. They don't run back and forth to the truck as UPS and Fed Ex do. Most of the Fed Ex drivers are part-time, here today and gone tomorrow.
It's easy enough to deliver with a dome light and headlights you overpaid pussies. Try walking block after block in the dark. We've got carriers that can run rings around you.
I agree with the anonymous person above the problem is the DPS and parcels. It makes no sense to bring in carriers early if there is no mail to prepare. This change has to come nationally to the Areas and District offices. The Postal Service refuses to hire people because it is trying to save money. They may or may not be doing that but they are certainly upsetting carriers and customers. the UPS and Fed-ex people above do not understand the complexities of delivering mail in the night. Safety and efficiency are involved. These two factors are a concern to carriers. Carriers with park-and loop routes do not have the safety of their vehicles to jump in such as our competitors. Customers are generally not upset when packages are delivered to them late. They are when it's the mail though. Customers expect mail everyday not packages.
1:07 makes some good points.The ups & fredex posts are made from a strong basis of IGNORANCE.
7 Years and OUT of Here, I can't belive the P.O. has the best interest of the public in mind I think they are trying to get the public so pissed they will let them privitize. I think the best way to fight this is to have the public contact tier congressmen and senators, AND newspapers. Postal management hates publicity on the local level
Like we said, UPS and FedEx have the benefit of their lighted vehicles and do what - 1 or two houses on a block? Take my mail (two bundles) and try delivering two blocks - both sides - in the dark and then tell me how easy it is.
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