You will see a lot more of these "sky is falling" stories in the future to prepare for labor negotiations.
If all classes of mail pay their own way.. and overall volume is increasing, I don't see a problem.
The problem is, the major mailers don't pay their own way. They want a free ride on the expensive first class rates the average citizen must pay.
You will note they predict a price increase of as much as 15%??? Why so much? Labor costs have gone up only a tiny amount in the last few years. Aren't they always claiming that labor is 80% of the expense?
I'm with you Jethro, except it would take more than 2 casuals to replace me...why the hell do you think we're still forced to work? LOL...I'm just gonna cruise from here on out, this will be my LAST Christmas helping all of my supervisors get their bonuses....as the late great Rodney Dangerfield often stated "I don't get no respect"...but I do get paid handsomely for all of my "unauthorized overtime" Don't worry about being a stupid redneck anymore...geez, we's got one runnin' the country! Your cuz...Halfthro...
"sky is falling" never ceases to amaze me with their ignorance. The major mailers not only pay their way, but they prop up the ridiculously low first class single piece rates that we as Americans enjoy. Take a look at postal rates anywhere else in the world and see that we should be paying anywhere from sixty to eighty cents for a letter. The 10 to 15 percent increase reflects four years of NO increase in postage while costs/labor did increase EACH year and accounts for future cost increases to cover the postal service from having to increase rates EVERY year.
To see what's really going on look at where the complaints come from. The letter carriers support postal reform. They aren't threatened because not only will we ALWAYS need letter carriers, but we increase their numbers each year. It's the idiots at APWU who are spreading lies, disinformation and slander.
It's true that the postal service is heavy on management. It's true that bonuses are paid that aren't deserved. It's also true that labor is quite heavy and there are thousands of "professional injured" people bilking the postal service out of millions of dollars each year. Isn't that some kind of a bonus? Why is the APWU so scared? Is it because they are needed less and less? Is it because, as the postal service becomes more efficient and competitive their dues go down? Doesn't it really boil down to selfish me-me-me? They don't care about the American public any more than they care about the future of the Postal Service.
I think members should ask why the union is wasting their money on full page ads in the newspaper that encourage jeapordizing their futures and the future of the postal service to try and save a superflous bunch of union officials. Ask them what's in it for you when UPS and Fed Ex put the postal service in a position that they only have first class mail to deliver.
Will Fed Ex have jobs for your unemployed @#$? No, because they already took the steps to be competitive.
You have got to be kidding, USPS put UPS out of buisness, I have been with the USPS for over 20 yrs. USPS can't compete, incompatent supervision,lazy employees who work hard at trying to get out of work than doing the job. Get real!
UPS forecasts 20 million deliveries, 16 million tracking requests Dec. 21 If a surge to shopping sites on the day after the Thanksgiving weekend has earned that day the title of Black Monday, this year's Dec. 21 might be dubbed Brown Tuesday. That's the day United Parcel Service expects both to deliver the most packages and receive the most online tracking requests of any day this holiday season, the carrier reports.
UPS expects to deliver more than 20 million packages on Dec. 21st that's an average 230 packages per second and to receive 16 million online tracking requests. That's well above this year's average tracking request rate of about 9.1 million per day, and above the 12 million online tracking requests received on last year's peak day, UPS reports.
Online tracking requests represent only a small portion of total visits to UPS.com, which received in excess of 1 billion hits in 2003 during the five days leading up to Dec. 25, and 300 million hits on its busiest day last holiday season. Consumers also visited the site to check delivery deadlines, pricing, and a variety of other holiday shipping-related information, according to a UPS spokesperson. UPS Online Tools including online package tracking, launched in 1999, are now used by more than 200,000 customers in 40 countries, including, as of this year, eBay, the carrier reports.
I am the best letter carrier in the USA, and I agree to run faster so as to help save money for the USPS. Maybe if all of you slackers and bumble-butts would step up the pace we would all have jobs in 5 years. Otherwise, just keep on dragging your heels and crying like whiny babies and see what happens. I can run off a two block swing in 8 minutes and my T6 takes 20. What a bum. Why can't more people be like me? I wonder.
"Labor costs have only gone up a tiny amount in the last few years"?
Oh really? They went up 3.4% last year. If that's consistent over the four years between last increase and the proposed 2006 case, there's a 13-14% increase in costs, while your revenue is flat. Not too hard to figure out!
Just read the postings usually seen on this sight. Most, but not all, come from the real problems of the Postal Service. Employees who can not figure out how great they hat it and can only complain about anything and everything they can think of. If they put the energy into their work that they put into crying about thing they know nothing about we would all be better off and the future of the Postal Service would be solid.
Just have a few things to say about some of the posts here. First of all to the post that states the problems is with the APWU, I say BS! We "ALL" serve a important role in getting the mail out, not just carriers. And something that you should think about is that if their jobs are expendable, the carriers jobs can be also. It would not take much to have wages carriers get to be reduced once the clerk craft is weakend or abolished. You can get part timers and casuals to put mail into mail boxes for much less wages and benefits than the regulars get, so do not think "YOUR" job is much more secure.
We have the greatest mail delivery system in the world with the lowest rates of any industrialized nation. It takes "ALL" workers to keep us strong and competitive. From the window clerks, to the mail handlers to the distribution clerks to the carriers. No one is against postal reform to "IMPROVE" the postal service, only when you see reform mean ways of taking apart the postal service for minimal wages outside workers who do a bad job is where I have a issue with it.
Go look at these so called private mail outlets who are contracted to use the postal service name. These are filled with minimal waged employees who work part time and never were trained properly for the job. They mainly do not do the job properly and could care less if they lose their job because of the wages that they are paid. They are the ones who give us a bad image to the public. One example, a international package mailed out that was returned weeks later because of the wrong custom form used or restrictions to that country not observed in the IMM.
So stop thinking that only carriers serve a important role in the postal service..
908 - another APWU dweeb with head locked hopelessly in the sand. If you think postal reform is about reducing wages then you're not smart enough to EVEN work for the postal service.
How do you think that UPS and FedEx can afford to pay such high wages and benefits? Because of the non-competitive mentality of jerks like you. It was head-up-and-locked, blind and ignorant dingbats that allowed them to scoop up the cream of the parcel business, lock up the overnight business, and take most of the important "gotta get there" letter business away from you.
They couldn't have done it on a level playing field...
Oh we would still trounce you on a "level" playing field. The sad part is that on paper the playing field is slanted in your direction. All classes subsidise each other. The USPS keeps rotten books, and you dont think that the wages of the same USPS employee that delivers several classes of mail at the same time is paid proportionately from each revenue stream of the different classes, do you? Nope, its all paid out of the grand total from all classes. The USPS is going DOWN.
What a sad place this is, you have the UPS and FedEx defenders in here on a postal forum cutting up the service that we provide or the Postal Service labor. Well the MAJORITY of Postal workers do a great job, and deliver the packages and mail for far less than the private companies they compete with.. As far as the jack ass idiots who think otherwise, go to the UPS forums and brag their about them and get the hell out of this one!
Rotten books? Wasn't it ups keeping accounts offshore to avoid taxes? And no you couldn't trounce your self on a level playing field.You work very hard to protect your self created "monopoly".You don't want honest competition, you'd be afraid it would affect your stock price.
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Once Bush signs the BILL... We CAN compete and put UPS out of BUSINESS!!!
You will see a lot more of these "sky is falling" stories in the future to prepare for labor negotiations.
If all classes of mail pay their own way.. and overall volume is increasing, I don't see a problem.
The problem is, the major mailers don't pay their own way. They want a free ride on the expensive first class rates the average citizen must pay.
You will note they predict a price increase of as much as 15%??? Why so much? Labor costs have gone up only a tiny amount in the last few years. Aren't they always claiming that labor is 80% of the expense?
Why don't these figures add up? huh?
Okay, for the good of the ol' po, I accept a 25K buyout. Give my job to 2 casuals and still save money.
5th grade graduate
Jethro
I'm with you Jethro, except it would take more than 2 casuals to replace me...why the hell do you think we're still forced to work? LOL...I'm just gonna cruise from here on out, this will be my LAST Christmas helping all of my supervisors get their bonuses....as the late great Rodney Dangerfield often stated "I don't get no respect"...but I do get paid handsomely for all of my "unauthorized overtime"
Don't worry about being a stupid redneck anymore...geez, we's got one runnin' the country!
Your cuz...Halfthro...
UPS has the money in the right places to ensure that there will be no competition.
"sky is falling" never ceases to amaze me with their ignorance. The major mailers not only pay their way, but they prop up the ridiculously low first class single piece rates that we as Americans enjoy. Take a look at postal rates anywhere else in the world and see that we should be paying anywhere from sixty to eighty cents for a letter. The 10 to 15 percent increase reflects four years of NO increase in postage while costs/labor did increase EACH year and accounts for future cost increases to cover the postal service from having to increase rates EVERY year.
To see what's really going on look at where the complaints come from. The letter carriers support postal reform. They aren't threatened because not only will we ALWAYS need letter carriers, but we increase their numbers each year. It's the idiots at APWU who are spreading lies, disinformation and slander.
It's true that the postal service is heavy on management. It's true that bonuses are paid that aren't deserved. It's also true that labor is quite heavy and there are thousands of "professional injured" people bilking the postal service out of millions of dollars each year. Isn't that some kind of a bonus? Why is the APWU so scared? Is it because they are needed less and less? Is it because, as the postal service becomes more efficient and competitive their dues go down? Doesn't it really boil down to selfish me-me-me? They don't care about the American public any more than they care about the future of the Postal Service.
I think members should ask why the union is wasting their money on full page ads in the newspaper that encourage jeapordizing their futures and the future of the postal service to try and save a superflous bunch of union officials. Ask them what's in it for you when UPS and Fed Ex put the postal service in a position that they only have first class mail to deliver.
Will Fed Ex have jobs for your unemployed @#$? No, because they already took the steps to be competitive.
You have got to be kidding, USPS put UPS out of buisness, I have been with the USPS for over 20 yrs.
USPS can't compete, incompatent supervision,lazy employees who work hard at trying to get out of work
than doing the job. Get real!
UPS forecasts 20 million deliveries, 16 million tracking requests Dec. 21
If a surge to shopping sites on the day after the Thanksgiving weekend has
earned that day the title of Black Monday, this year's Dec. 21 might be
dubbed Brown Tuesday. That's the day United Parcel Service expects both to
deliver the most packages and receive the most online tracking requests of any day
this holiday season, the carrier reports.
UPS expects to deliver more than 20 million packages on Dec. 21st that's an
average 230 packages per second and to receive 16 million online tracking
requests. That's well above this year's average tracking request rate of about 9.1
million per day, and above the 12 million online tracking requests received on
last year's peak day, UPS reports.
Online tracking requests represent only a small portion of total visits to
UPS.com, which received in excess of 1 billion hits in 2003 during the five days
leading up to Dec. 25, and 300 million hits on its busiest day last holiday
season. Consumers also visited the site to check delivery deadlines, pricing,
and a variety of other holiday shipping-related information, according to a UPS
spokesperson. UPS Online Tools including online package tracking, launched in
1999, are now used by more than 200,000 customers in 40 countries, including,
as of this year, eBay, the carrier reports.
I am the best letter carrier in the USA, and I agree to run faster so as to help save money for the USPS. Maybe if all of you slackers and bumble-butts would step up the pace we would all have jobs in 5 years. Otherwise, just keep on dragging your heels and crying like whiny babies and see what happens. I can run off a two block swing in 8 minutes and my T6 takes 20. What a bum. Why can't more people be like me? I wonder.
"Labor costs have only gone up a tiny amount in the last few years"?
Oh really? They went up 3.4% last year. If that's consistent over the four years between last increase and the proposed 2006 case, there's a 13-14% increase in costs, while your revenue is flat. Not too hard to figure out!
Just read the postings usually seen on this sight. Most, but not all, come from the real problems of the Postal Service. Employees who can not figure out how great they hat it and can only complain about anything and everything they can think of. If they put the energy into their work that they put into crying about thing they know nothing about we would all be better off and the future of the Postal Service would be solid.
Just have a few things to say about some of the posts here. First of all to the post that states the problems is with the APWU, I say BS! We "ALL" serve a important role in getting the mail out, not just carriers. And something that you should think about is that if their jobs are expendable, the carriers jobs can be also. It would not take much to have wages carriers get to be reduced once the clerk craft is weakend or abolished. You can get part timers and casuals to put mail into mail boxes for much less wages and benefits than the regulars get, so do not think "YOUR" job is much more secure.
We have the greatest mail delivery system in the world with the lowest rates of any industrialized nation. It takes "ALL" workers to keep us strong and competitive. From the window clerks, to the mail handlers to the distribution clerks to the carriers. No one is against postal reform to "IMPROVE" the postal service, only when you see reform mean ways of taking apart the postal service for minimal wages outside workers who do a bad job is where I have a issue with it.
Go look at these so called private mail outlets who are contracted to use the postal service name. These are filled with minimal waged employees who work part time and never were trained properly for the job. They mainly do not do the job properly and could care less if they lose their job because of the wages that they are paid. They are the ones who give us a bad image to the public. One example, a international package mailed out that was returned weeks later because of the wrong custom form used or restrictions to that country not observed in the IMM.
So stop thinking that only carriers serve a important role in the postal service..
908 - another APWU dweeb with head locked hopelessly in the sand. If you think postal reform is about reducing wages then you're not smart enough to EVEN work for the postal service.
How do you think that UPS and FedEx can afford to pay such high wages and benefits? Because of the non-competitive mentality of jerks like you. It was head-up-and-locked, blind and ignorant dingbats that allowed them to scoop up the cream of the parcel business, lock up the overnight business, and take most of the important "gotta get there" letter business away from you.
They couldn't have done it on a level playing field...
www.lovinggrace.org
Oh we would still trounce you on a "level" playing field. The sad part is that on paper the playing field is slanted in your direction. All classes subsidise each other. The USPS keeps rotten books, and you dont think that the wages of the same USPS employee that delivers several classes of mail at the same time is paid proportionately from each revenue stream of the different classes, do you? Nope, its all paid out of the grand total from all classes. The USPS is going DOWN.
What a sad place this is, you have the UPS and FedEx defenders in here on a postal forum cutting up the service that we provide or the Postal Service labor. Well the MAJORITY of Postal workers do a great job, and deliver the packages and mail for far less than the private companies they compete with.. As far as the jack ass idiots who think otherwise, go to the UPS forums and brag their about them and get the hell out of this one!
Rotten books? Wasn't it ups keeping accounts offshore to avoid taxes?
And no you couldn't trounce your self on a level playing field.You work very hard to protect your self created "monopoly".You don't want honest competition, you'd be afraid it would affect your stock price.
Even if that was the case, genius, UPS still had accurate accounting of where the money was at. More than can be said for the USPS.
Even if that was the case???The point would be genius, that putting the money in off shore accounts to avoid taxes is ILLEGAL!!!!HELLO!
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