AMEN TO THAT !!! 12 city routes and 2 RD's in my small office, and we have a postmaster, a delivery supervisor, a customer services supervisor, and 3 204-B's on duty at all times. Except for Saturday that is, when only the delivery supervisor shows up for work, and then he goes home before Noon. Carriers are on the street up to and sometimes after dark, and no one to answer a phone if there is an accident. Not that you could close an office with 14 routes, but there sure is a lot more dead weight around than just the Level 11-16 offices that could be eliminated.
Speaking of non-productive employees, The Postal Service could save a gazillion dollars and roll stamp prices back to 15 cents, if only they'd shutter that sorry excuse for a landfill at L'Enfant Plaza.
Anything that comes out of there could be better handled and managed by a level 5 clerk, or a level 6 Letter Carrier.
And to all those Postmasters who are taking the early "bail out".....don't let the swinging doors hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
Hey 8:53..You are full of u know what. Impossible to have 12 Routes and 5 Supervisors and 1 Postmaster..How miserable you must be to write Bull for all to read and laugh at...
that is bs when somebody posts that with 12 city and 2 rurals there are 2 full-time supervisors plus 3 204b's Our Office has 10 city, 7 rural, and the main office and a remote station. We only have one full-time supervisor. No 204bs working unless the supervisor is not there.
We've got 12 rural routes , and somehow 'need' a supervisor AND a postmaster( been that way since we've had 6 routes) I believe the numbers nationwide come out to something on the order of: 1 IN, LESS THAN 5! is an lie-telling, ass-sitting parasite! Looks like a mere ONE PER CENT are going to take the out (be paid to leave). Wouldn't it be more appropriate for Federal tribunals to put something more on the order of about EIGHTY THOUSAND of these total liabilities to the justice they deserve?
retiring early? i think they should find them a job and make them actually work first . they keep adding supervisors to offices that dont need them. how can we need more supervisors when they are always reporting the mail volume is going down. on friday we had nine trays of first class mail delivered to our post office in edgerton wisconsin at 900 am our supervisor hid them so he wouldnt have to keep us their, and could run them on the machine the next day on saturday we had so much mail most of our carriers didnt leave the office any where close to their leaving times because of the mail volume . he rolls third class mail every day to the next day no matter what the mail volume is . and calls if managing the mail. keeps the cfs that comes back on his desk for days . they put a stand in our office in the middle of the floor for him to stand their all morning and watch the carriers work while he does nothing and our post master sits in his office . he lets subs start early so they can get done earlier but if anyone else walks in that office early your gonna get in trouble . he delivers the express mail drive s like a maniac to get back and who checks his driving . before we had the supervisor all our mail got delivered in one day . unless it was a heavy day. now it just sit s on the floor . they sent a machine to our office so if would be more efficient we used to come to work at 7:00 our dps was by our cases now were lucky if we have it by 10:00 . then he stand s and screams at the carriers to get out of the office . i say send our mail back to madison to machine , can the supervisor and make the postmaster do his job ..... now all they do is blame someone else for our office problems never their fault ... to bad they didnt base their performance rated by the employees in the office for the bonuses the would owe the post office money ..oh and report them done that all we got in return , our working conditions got worse , and several people s jobs have been threaten and the post office wonders why its losing money
11:56 PM, To what you said: Routine,... yep,.. yep ,and yeah but when you say: "base their performance rated by the employees in the office for the bonuses" ,... THEY DO; it's OUR performance/THEIR rating!
post offices are much like red state /blue state some are way overstaffed that is true-but as a recently retired pm (office with 11 clerks , 5 routes,2400 po boxes and no supervisor) i can vouch for a fact that many pm's in the level 15-18 rural offices are working 6-7 days a week-casing and delivering rural routes, boxing and sorting mail, and if they are lucky trying to do some of the admin work like getting the employees paid-many are losing annual leave at the end of the year-many are out on work related stress issues-no wonder over 5% were willing to take a decrease in their retirement just to get away from this mess
So ,7:08 AM, You say the productive employee's unions turned down a performance BONUS years ago? Then you admit that your bonus IS a bonus!It , in fact, is a lying ,cheating, and harassment incentive-BONUS designed to reward dishonest slugs ,at the expense of honest hard-working employees.I don't know about whinning,...maybe the whinning is just beginning, but you should stop WHINING and GET A JOB!!
There would be 1501 retiring if they went into the higher level offices! And I would suggest that the employees not stand in front of the swinging doors on the day I could leave! I notice that Western and Eastern areas have the most retiring. I wonder why... could it possibly be the harrassment and intimidation that upper management puts on field managers? They could close the District Offices except for the employees who do something worthwhile, rather than sit around and drink coffee!
THEY NEED TO GET RID OF ALL POSTMASTERS AND MAKE THEM LOW LEVEL MANAGERS, LESS PAY FOR WORK PERFORMED, AND ONLY HAVE A DISTRICT POSTMASTER. THEY COULD HAVE EVALUALTED ROUTE FOR THE CITY CARRIERS AND THAT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME MORE SUPERVISORS. GIVE THE CRAFT BACK ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM THROUGH THE YEARS.
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This will be a good time to close those level 11 and 13 profit leeches.
AMEN TO THAT !!! 12 city routes and 2 RD's in my small office, and we have a postmaster, a delivery supervisor, a customer services supervisor, and 3 204-B's on duty at all times. Except for Saturday that is, when only the delivery supervisor shows up for work, and then he goes home before Noon. Carriers are on the street up to and sometimes after dark, and no one to answer a phone if there is an accident. Not that you could close an office with 14 routes, but there sure is a lot more dead weight around than just the Level 11-16 offices that could be eliminated.
You must have a busy window=lots of revenue, to have that many mgrs with no more delivery than you have.
Now is the time to close all of the unprofitable Post Offices while there is an early out in place.
Speaking of non-productive employees, The Postal Service could save a gazillion dollars and roll stamp prices back to 15 cents, if only they'd shutter that sorry excuse for a landfill at L'Enfant Plaza.
Anything that comes out of there could be better handled and managed by a level 5 clerk, or a level 6 Letter Carrier.
And to all those Postmasters who are taking the early "bail out".....don't let the swinging doors hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
Hey 8:53..You are full of u know what. Impossible to have 12 Routes and 5 Supervisors and 1 Postmaster..How miserable you must be to write Bull for all to read and laugh at...
that is bs when somebody posts that with 12 city and 2 rurals there are 2 full-time supervisors plus 3 204b's
Our Office has 10 city, 7 rural, and the main office and a remote station. We only have one full-time supervisor. No 204bs working unless the supervisor is not there.
We've got 12 rural routes , and somehow 'need' a supervisor AND a postmaster( been that way since we've had 6 routes) I believe the numbers nationwide come out to something on the order of: 1 IN, LESS THAN 5! is an lie-telling, ass-sitting parasite! Looks like a mere ONE PER CENT are going to take the out (be paid to leave). Wouldn't it be more appropriate for Federal tribunals to put something more on the order of about EIGHTY THOUSAND of these total liabilities to the justice they deserve?
retiring early? i think they should find them a job and make them actually work first . they keep adding supervisors to offices that dont need them. how can we need more supervisors when they are always reporting the mail volume is going down. on friday we had nine trays of first class mail delivered to our post office in edgerton wisconsin at 900 am our supervisor hid them so he wouldnt have to keep us their, and could run them on the machine the next day on saturday we had so much mail most of our carriers didnt leave the office any where close to their leaving times because of the mail volume . he rolls third class mail every day to the next day no matter what the mail volume is . and calls if managing the mail. keeps the cfs that comes back on his desk for days . they put a stand in our office in the middle of the floor for him to stand their all morning and watch the carriers work while he does nothing and our post master sits in his office . he lets subs start early so they can get done earlier but if anyone else walks in that office early your gonna get in trouble . he delivers the express mail drive s like a maniac to get back and who checks his driving . before we had the supervisor all our mail got delivered in one day . unless it was a heavy day. now it just sit s on the floor . they sent a machine to our office so if would be more efficient we used to come to work at 7:00 our dps was by our cases now were lucky if we have it by 10:00 . then he stand s and screams at the carriers to get out of the office . i say send our mail back to madison to machine , can the supervisor and make the postmaster do his job ..... now all they do is blame someone else for our office problems never their fault ... to bad they didnt base their performance rated by the employees in the office for the bonuses the would owe the post office money ..oh and report them done that all we got in return , our working conditions got worse , and several people s jobs have been threaten and the post office wonders why its losing money
11:56 PM, To what you said: Routine,... yep,.. yep ,and yeah
but when you say: "base their performance rated by the employees in the office for the bonuses" ,... THEY DO; it's OUR performance/THEIR rating!
to 5:46AM yes it's your job so do it and quite whinning. Another thing your unions turned down a kind of performance bonus about twelve years ago.
post offices are much like red state /blue state
some are way overstaffed that is true-but as a recently retired pm (office with 11 clerks , 5 routes,2400 po boxes and no supervisor) i can vouch for a fact that many pm's in the level 15-18 rural offices are working 6-7 days a week-casing and delivering rural routes, boxing and sorting mail, and if they are lucky trying to do some of the admin work like getting the employees paid-many are losing annual leave at the end of the year-many are out on work related stress issues-no wonder over 5% were willing to take a decrease in their retirement just to get away from this mess
Amen to 10:51AM. The detractors should go out as OIC in a level 11-16 office. They will then know what the real world is.
So ,7:08 AM, You say the productive employee's unions turned down a performance BONUS years ago? Then you admit that your bonus IS a bonus!It , in fact, is a lying ,cheating, and harassment incentive-BONUS designed to reward dishonest slugs ,at the expense of honest hard-working employees.I don't know about whinning,...maybe the whinning is just beginning, but you should stop WHINING and GET A JOB!!
There would be 1501 retiring if they went into the higher level offices! And I would suggest that the employees not stand in front of the swinging doors on the day I could leave!
I notice that Western and Eastern areas have the most retiring. I wonder why...
could it possibly be the harrassment and intimidation that upper management puts on field managers? They could close the District Offices except for the employees who do something worthwhile, rather than sit around and drink coffee!
THEY NEED TO GET RID OF ALL POSTMASTERS AND MAKE THEM LOW LEVEL MANAGERS, LESS PAY FOR WORK PERFORMED, AND ONLY HAVE A DISTRICT POSTMASTER. THEY COULD HAVE EVALUALTED ROUTE FOR THE CITY CARRIERS AND THAT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME MORE SUPERVISORS. GIVE THE CRAFT BACK ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM THROUGH THE YEARS.
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