Yet another doom and gloom article about the mailing industry. If it were not for these doom and gloom articles about the Post Office there would be no news at all. Yet the funny thing about all of this is that we have been hearing these doom and gloom articles for years and we are still here.
Seems to be the mailing industry wants to play up their problems so that their rates do not go up. Maybe we can all play up our problems so that gas prices do not go up, or health care costs, or the prices of everything we buy at the store? Think anyone would listen? No, because you have to be a lobbyist for that to happen!
Why is the unions always the first to be blamed?How about the management who waste money on idiotic ideas and call overtime when it's not needed and made people work Christmas day when the mail is not going anywhere because the planes(FEDEX)were not flyingand since they carry our mail instead of having our own planes and giving our business away.Express was being guaranteed for Monday.Why should the crafts bargain their Health Care,Retirement,Pay and other stuff away and management get everything while doing nothing except think of idiotic ideas and f**k with people while stirring up s**t.We should all work together especially rhe crafts and the Post Office shouyld quit giving away our business ti the other companies.We should also make these companies pay more for there postage instead of the average joe.Why should the companies pay 9 cents for there letter while the average joe pay 37 cents and now they want to make the average joe pay more that's bulls**t.
Why is the unions always the first to be blamed?How about the management who waste money on idiotic ideas and call overtime when it's not needed and made people work Christmas day when the mail is not going anywhere because the planes(FEDEX)were not flyingand since they carry our mail instead of having our own planes and giving our business away.Express was being guaranteed for Monday.Why should the crafts bargain their Health Care,Retirement,Pay and other stuff away and management get everything while doing nothing except think of idiotic ideas and f**k with people while stirring up s**t.We should all work together especially rhe crafts and the Post Office shouyld quit giving away our business ti the other companies.We should also make these companies pay more for there postage instead of the average joe.Why should the companies pay 9 cents for there letter while the average joe pay 37 cents and now they want to make the average joe pay more that's bulls**t.Make the companies pay more.
Don't you know why this is happening? You see the CEO's of these companies need to make more profit than they are getting, and they cannot pay more for postage because their bottom line profit will drop. We can not have that now can we. In their minds it is all of us overpaid Postal workers that is the problem, not their profit margins.
They cannot make the paper companies lower their prices for materials. They cannot pay lower than minimal wage to their workers or less rent for their warehouses, so that gives them no other option but to lobby for Postal reform to take away our collective bargaining rights for our wages and benefits. Then they will be happy!
It seems that Mr Raymond likes to do alot of crying. Maybe all of the CEO'S in the mailing industry should take a substancial pay cut for the bottom line. They already pay their workers WAL-MART wages so no cuts there.Or maybe they should just bleed to death.
Why would you talk about something you know so little about? There are no, I repeat NO companies paying nine cents in postage. There are non-profit institutions that pay that low of a rate, and congress makes up the difference - congress MANDATES the non-profit rates. Most of us in the mailing industry have taken LARGE paycuts (my salary was half last year what it was 3 years ago) because our salaries are tied to what we do.
Do you really think the effect of Joe Average having to pay an extra 4 cents on the 10 pieces of mail he sends each month will be devastating?
I do think it can make a difference to my customer that mails a million pieces a month. He may re-think where he's putting his advertising dollars - television, radio, print...all become more attractive when direct mail becomes too expensive.
If you look at the real figures from any rate cases, you'll see that standard mail and presorted mail are propping up the artificially low single piece rates. But, since you are stupid union dweebs, you are too lazy to check into facts for yourself. That's why it's so easy for your union to tell you total and utter lies and you suck it up like manna from heaven.
Q. How many fingers does an APWU member have? A. We don't know, he never takes his hands out of his pockets.
The real target is now the craft employees and the wages and benefits we earn. There are certain people, who manage businesses, who feel that we are vastly overpaid for what we bring to the USPS. These CEO/efficiency types will not be satisfied until they drastically reduce our wages and benefits to the likes of certain retail giants. It should be clear that the wages we now enjoy will not remain this way forever. I really expect the contract negotiations to be stalled this year for this very reason. If they do this to the craft, they should require all supervisors to have a business degree. This is the direction I feel that the USPS is going. They want to have a cheap labor force. Because as management has said many times where I work, "The employees are the problem". They didn't directly say that, but the sentiment is there from them.
Lets cut thru all the bull. Just eliminate Sat delivery and layoff 150,000 employess (Craft and EAS). Leave the rates alone for the next 20 years or maybe lower it a penny or two. 80% of our expense is Labor. Just do it and be done with it once and for all.....
Eliminate Saturday delivery? You might as well eliminate universal mail delivery while your at it because that is what makes us different than the private compainies out there.
Why should our prices have to remain the same for years while companies like UPS, FedEx raise their prices when they feel like it? Does our gas to run our trucks cost less? Do our employees not deserve cost of living adjustments in their pay like UPS employees or FedEx ones? Just because we are so called "Federal" agency, why do people have a fit when our prices go up and not when the other guys raise theirs? Do FedEx and UPS rates get televised and in print like ours when they go up? I think not..
What do this mailers think UPS or FedEx would charge them to put their mail in every address across America? They know that they would charge WAY MORE than the Postal Service! How about having a company like them to mail a letter from Florida to a small town in Alaska for 37 cents? They would not even do it for a couple of bucks!
I'm tired of seeing the Postal Service get kicked around by the public and mailers. Go and see what other countries pay for postage!
FUCK THE LAZY ASSHOLES IN MISMANAGEMENT! LET THEM GO OUT AND DELIVER THE DAM MAIL THEN.AND FUCK YOU TOO AL! FUCK ALL YOU STUDPIVISOR JERK OFFS ON THIS BOARD TOO!! GO FUCK YOURSELVES ALL OF YOU! PUPPETHEADS! YOU SHOULD HAVE WENT TO BURGER COLLEGE,BUT INSTEAD YOUR A BIG BOZO WEARING A TIE IN THE USPS.BIG DEAL,IT STILL MEANS YOU AINT SHIT! YOU SOLD OUT! YOU HAVE NO SOUL!!
These overpaid underworked unionized postal employees who have the best medical plans do not like hearing that these are going on the bargaining table. If this is bargained for then the treble damages against incompetent managers should also be the rule. Add to this the right to strike and a few other odds and ends and this will be a fun time
9:50 poster: Son, go eaaaassssyyyyyyyy. You're gonna tear a vein in your neck feeling THAT way. What's wrong, you didn't get laid Christmas night? Chill..............................
Sad to see how fast these "discussions" go downhill in a hurry. The article had many good points that will affect the postal service. I thought that the most telling were the facts that Congress has not and will not repay its debts to the PO. Unfortunately, Congress by and large still has the attitude as much of the general public does about the PO. The attitude is that it's always been here for as long as I can remember so it can't possibly be in trouble. Yes, we make good money for what we do, but that is not the problem. We need significant changes in our ability to change our pricing structure. For the uninformed, all classes of mail are mandated to be self-sufficient, that is, we cannot use revenue from first class to prop up losses in standard mail. The whole idea that some claim that "average Joe" subsidizes the big mailers is total BS. The fact of the matter is that the USPS cannot survive without standard mail anymore. What we as employees need to do, both craft and management, is work together for our future if we are to have one. We have to all give 100% if we are to survive. Those who aren't willing or able, on both sides, should leave.
Sad to see how fast these "discussions" go downhill in a hurry. The article had many good points that will affect the postal service. I thought that the most telling were the facts that Congress has not and will not repay its debts to the PO. Unfortunately, Congress by and large still has the attitude as much of the general public does about the PO. The attitude is that it's always been here for as long as I can remember so it can't possibly be in trouble. Yes, we make good money for what we do, but that is not the problem. We need significant changes in our ability to change our pricing structure. For the uninformed, all classes of mail are mandated to be self-sufficient, that is, we cannot use revenue from first class to prop up losses in standard mail. The whole idea that some claim that "average Joe" subsidizes the big mailers is total BS. The fact of the matter is that the USPS cannot survive without standard mail anymore. What we as employees need to do, both craft and management, is work together for our future if we are to have one. We have to all give 100% if we are to survive. Those who aren't willing or able, on both sides, should leave.
10:59 is proof that there is at least one person in the postal service with good sense. You know what? Us mailers really don't care how much you make or how great your benefits are. We're not out to get them. Really we're not.
But here's the bottom line: In 1970 Congress reorganized the Post Office Department into a quasi-government organization and mandated that they pay their own way through break-even revenue from rates.
UPS and FedEx both pay extremely well (probably better than the postal service) and have great benefits. Their rates are competitive, and yes they go up when need be. So why is it the postal service can't remain competitive with these services?
Two reasons. Congress mandates universal delivery for the postal service. The others don't have to deliver anywhere they don't want to, and they can charge more to go places they'd rather not. The other is that they require a very high standard from their employees in exchange for the pay.
The first reason can't be fixed entirely. But to level the playing field, the postal service should be able to charge extra for deliveries that have to be made by boat or sled dog.
The other requires a general waking up by the employees of the postal service - and I mean top to bottom. There are tons of management personnel "hiding" or riding around large chunks of the day. There are also minions of "professional injured" people in the labor ranks.
If the 10:50's of the world would make it unacceptable for their peers to behave that way, there would be no need for most of the management levels. Believe me, the sugar teat will dry up eventually - either through lower wages that reflect the benefit gained from your lazy portion of the work-force, or through shared awareness and hard work to change the playing field.
UPS and FedEx both have unions, so that's not the problem. Remember, you are not entitled to anything and nobody owes you a thing...
Very well said indeed, 11:33. I'm a business mailer who has to deal with a BMEU that has cut it's hours several times until it is now only open 6.5 hours per day, but still seems to need 2 supervisors to stand around, and most of the clerks move at a glacial pace - when they aren't on break. The corporate culture of the USPS has sunk pretty low, judging by the vast majority of the comments posted at these sites. And all the bitching about "junk mail" is about as ridiculous as a burger joint complaining about having to make so many french fries - especially when the fries are more and more of their core business every day. The USPS should institute a basic literacy test, as well. Half of these posters aren't smart enough to sane enough to do anything other than dig ditches and fill 'em back up again.
It's the customers on the receiving end who coined the term "junk mail." Most of them just don't want it. Clerks move at a "glacial pace" because of the computer system. I once timed a window clerk. She took 13 minutes to sell a book of stamps to a customer. She spent most of this time watching the computer screen and waiting for it to react to her input. I agree that "universal service" is a joke. We have an army of carriers marching through the slums in this country every day delivering a minuscule amount of real mail. Of course it will take an act of Congress to change this. I have noticed that a lot of our injuries happen in these slums, from dogs and people not removing ice from their sidewalks.
How loyal can an employee be to an embarassment of an employer? I don't give a damn about the USPS. A business that operates like the USPS would be bankrupt in a very short time. I'm gonna get as much as I can for as long as I can because of the lousy way I am treated as an employee.
The question is how in the world has the Post Office stay in business all of these years with worthless employees that will rather go on breaks and talk about retirement continuosly. These employees then will get pay raises without merit, thanks to the worthless unions that have failed to negotiate a contract in more than 20 years. Then of course, we have the worthless management bunch that can only work in those positions in the Post Office simply because of affirmative action and not because they are qualified. What a mess! You have a bunch of lazy (not all) employees that are there just to be there and get paid. Then, you have a management team that don't know how to manage and last, but not least, you have unions that are there for the perks and unable to negotiate. How in the world can this be? Only one solution. Privatize! Then, clean up the entire work force and arrest management for impersonating leadership. Then, maybe, we can compete with the real professionals such as UPS and FED EX.
I'd like to respond to a couple of comments... first of all the consumers didn't coin the phrase "junk mail", television news commentators did. And the newspapers and magazines jumped on the bandwagon even though they are large users of the medium. Why? because even though it works well for them, it competes for advertising dollars - and competes well I might add.
1:40 needs to find a real job. Sorry you're so ashamed to work for the oldest institution in the country.
Next, the unions aren't there for perks. They are there for themselves. They trick the employees into thinking that they are there for them. If they are so concerned, why don't they form up strictly of employees and not collect dues? Oh yeah, then they'd lose their cushy salaries and benefits. What do you get for it? Zip. Goose egg. Nada.
Privatization will never work because then you'd lose universal delivery. It ain't gonna happen. Congress couldn't stand the heat.
In my 10yrs as a letter carrier i have witnessed and read about alot of wasteful spending throughout the PO. The one that has to top the list is the number of carriers on light-duty. At the present time, 12 letter carriers in our office cannot perform the duties of a level 6 employee. More than half are permanent and will never perform the full functions of a letter carrier. I admit im no doctor, but from what i see, the aches and pains that keep these employees on light duty are the same aches and pain we all feel from a labor intense job. As a pro-union employee, who is thankful for the protections the NALC provides, my opinion on this subject leaves me in a catch-22. If i was ever truly injured on the job, to the point i could not carrier mail, i would hope the union would protect my job status. On the other hand, if the PO and my job are in jeopardy the ones that can't perform must go.
Congress should investigate NPA and chasing/manufacturing numbers just for the sake of lining your EAS pockets. If you EAS people got paid for jumping through 50 hoops in 2 minutes you would find a way to jump through 60!! The pathetic thing is you do what you do just for $$$, not because it is the right thing to do. Go tell your kids and your wives how good you are, but please spare the rest of us! A more conniving lot there is not - especially at the top.
Seems like some of the anti Post Office / anti worker posts are coming from non postal related people. Is this all you have to do loser. Stay away unless you know what you are talking about loser.
Does the word "lazy" seem to be in the majority of comments here? Go to hell with that word, I know that is a word made to make us think we are overpaid in benefits and salary. I know that "MOST" of us earn our salary and benefits in the Postal Service regardless of the blanket word "lazy" used in the comments on this board. Go to hell with the "lazy" comments, and walk a mile or stand a day in the shoes you call "lazy"!
In my vast experience with dealing with unions is they always protect the slugs, I imagine most of you who write in this column probably were protected what 12 times for being a slug.
right on 10:26 !!!!!!!! We got a lazy women in our office, as a carrier the only thing she can carry is her lazy ass to the bathroom . I've never seen a person crap as much as this women. We have had women carriers but they ALL cried and ran to their union. BOO HOO HOO. What a waste it is to hire a women. Forget the quotas and keep hiring men. White, black, yellow, red... It doesn't matter they are all better that a women!!!!
What union benefits? The only people enjoying union benefits are unions' elected officials that gets lots of the monies workers pay when they in turn do very little work themselves. They laugh at us as they run to the bank each payday.Ha,ha,ha,ha.
What union benefits???Do you think you'd make the money you do from the goodness of the Postal Services heart?? Give me a break!The union has won many perks and benefits for workers over the years!
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Yet another doom and gloom article about the mailing industry. If it were not for these doom and gloom articles about the Post Office there would be no news at all. Yet the funny thing about all of this is that we have been hearing these doom and gloom articles for years and we are still here.
Seems to be the mailing industry wants to play up their problems so that their rates do not go up. Maybe we can all play up our problems so that gas prices do not go up, or health care costs, or the prices of everything we buy at the store? Think anyone would listen? No, because you have to be a lobbyist for that to happen!
Why is the unions always the first to be blamed?How about the management who waste money on idiotic ideas and call overtime when it's not needed and made people work Christmas day when the mail is not going anywhere because the planes(FEDEX)were not flyingand since they carry our mail instead of having our own planes and giving our business away.Express was being guaranteed for Monday.Why should the crafts bargain their Health Care,Retirement,Pay and other stuff away and management get everything while doing nothing except think of idiotic ideas and f**k with people while stirring up s**t.We should all work together especially rhe crafts and the Post Office shouyld quit giving away our business ti the other companies.We should also make these companies pay more for there postage instead of the average joe.Why should the companies pay 9 cents for there letter while the average joe pay 37 cents and now they want to make the average joe pay more that's bulls**t.
Why is the unions always the first to be blamed?How about the management who waste money on idiotic ideas and call overtime when it's not needed and made people work Christmas day when the mail is not going anywhere because the planes(FEDEX)were not flyingand since they carry our mail instead of having our own planes and giving our business away.Express was being guaranteed for Monday.Why should the crafts bargain their Health Care,Retirement,Pay and other stuff away and management get everything while doing nothing except think of idiotic ideas and f**k with people while stirring up s**t.We should all work together especially rhe crafts and the Post Office shouyld quit giving away our business ti the other companies.We should also make these companies pay more for there postage instead of the average joe.Why should the companies pay 9 cents for there letter while the average joe pay 37 cents and now they want to make the average joe pay more that's bulls**t.Make the companies pay more.
Don't you know why this is happening? You see the CEO's of these companies need to make more profit than they are getting, and they cannot pay more for postage because their bottom line profit will drop. We can not have that now can we. In their minds it is all of us overpaid Postal workers that is the problem, not their profit margins.
They cannot make the paper companies lower their prices for materials. They cannot pay lower than minimal wage to their workers or less rent for their warehouses, so that gives them no other option but to lobby for Postal reform to take away our collective bargaining rights for our wages and benefits. Then they will be happy!
It seems that Mr Raymond likes to do alot of crying. Maybe all of the CEO'S in the mailing industry should take a substancial pay cut for the bottom line. They already pay their workers WAL-MART wages so no cuts there.Or maybe they should just bleed to death.
Why would you talk about something you know so little about? There are no, I repeat NO companies paying nine cents in postage. There are non-profit institutions that pay that low of a rate, and congress makes up the difference - congress MANDATES the non-profit rates. Most of us in the mailing industry have taken LARGE paycuts (my salary was half last year what it was 3 years ago) because our salaries are tied to what we do.
Do you really think the effect of Joe Average having to pay an extra 4 cents on the 10 pieces of mail he sends each month will be devastating?
I do think it can make a difference to my customer that mails a million pieces a month. He may re-think where he's putting his advertising dollars - television, radio, print...all become more attractive when direct mail becomes too expensive.
If you look at the real figures from any rate cases, you'll see that standard mail and presorted mail are propping up the artificially low single piece rates. But, since you are stupid union dweebs, you are too lazy to check into facts for yourself. That's why it's so easy for your union to tell you total and utter lies and you suck it up like manna from heaven.
Q. How many fingers does an APWU member have?
A. We don't know, he never takes his hands out of his pockets.
The real target is now the craft employees and the wages and benefits we earn. There are certain people, who manage businesses, who feel that we are vastly overpaid for what we bring to the USPS. These CEO/efficiency types will not be satisfied until they drastically reduce our wages and benefits to the likes of certain retail giants. It should be clear that the wages we now enjoy will not remain this way forever. I really expect the contract negotiations to be stalled this year for this very reason. If they do this to the craft, they should require all supervisors to have a business degree. This is the direction I feel that the USPS is going. They want to have a cheap labor force. Because as management has said many times where I work, "The employees are the problem". They didn't directly say that, but the sentiment is there from them.
Lets cut thru all the bull. Just eliminate Sat delivery and layoff 150,000 employess (Craft and EAS). Leave the rates alone for the next 20 years or maybe lower it a penny or two. 80% of our expense is Labor. Just do it and be done with it once and for all.....
BETTER YET,
JUST FORCE OUT THE CSRS EMPLOYEES , Then the FERS will be left at a lower pay scale!!
Eliminate Saturday delivery? You might as well eliminate universal mail delivery while your at it because that is what makes us different than the private compainies out there.
Why should our prices have to remain the same for years while companies like UPS, FedEx raise their prices when they feel like it? Does our gas to run our trucks cost less? Do our employees not deserve cost of living adjustments in their pay like UPS employees or FedEx ones? Just because we are so called "Federal" agency, why do people have a fit when our prices go up and not when the other guys raise theirs? Do FedEx and UPS rates get televised and in print like ours when they go up? I think not..
What do this mailers think UPS or FedEx would charge them to put their mail in every address across America? They know that they would charge WAY MORE than the Postal Service! How about having a company like them to mail a letter from Florida to a small town in Alaska for 37 cents? They would not even do it for a couple of bucks!
I'm tired of seeing the Postal Service get kicked around by the public and mailers. Go and see what other countries pay for postage!
Close those worthless, non-productive expensive plants now and get rid of all those slugs that work there.
FUCK THE LAZY ASSHOLES IN MISMANAGEMENT! LET THEM GO OUT AND DELIVER THE DAM MAIL THEN.AND FUCK YOU TOO AL! FUCK ALL YOU STUDPIVISOR JERK OFFS ON THIS BOARD TOO!! GO FUCK YOURSELVES ALL OF YOU! PUPPETHEADS! YOU SHOULD HAVE WENT TO BURGER COLLEGE,BUT INSTEAD YOUR A BIG BOZO WEARING A TIE IN THE USPS.BIG DEAL,IT STILL MEANS YOU AINT SHIT! YOU SOLD OUT! YOU HAVE NO SOUL!!
Well 9:50 I will take my 8.0% raise next month and pray that you get anger management counseling.....
These overpaid underworked unionized postal employees who have the best medical plans do not like hearing that these are going on the bargaining table. If this is bargained for then the treble damages against incompetent managers should also be the rule. Add to this the right to strike and a few other odds and ends and this will be a fun time
9:50 poster: Son, go eaaaassssyyyyyyyy. You're gonna tear a vein in your neck feeling THAT way. What's wrong, you didn't get laid Christmas night? Chill..............................
Sad to see how fast these "discussions" go downhill in a hurry. The article had many good points that will affect the postal service. I thought that the most telling were the facts that Congress has not and will not repay its debts to the PO. Unfortunately, Congress by and large still has the attitude as much of the general public does about the PO. The attitude is that it's always been here for as long as I can remember so it can't possibly be in trouble. Yes, we make good money for what we do, but that is not the problem. We need significant changes in our ability to change our pricing structure. For the uninformed, all classes of mail are mandated to be self-sufficient, that is, we cannot use revenue from first class to prop up losses in standard mail. The whole idea that some claim that "average Joe" subsidizes the big mailers is total BS. The fact of the matter is that the USPS cannot survive without standard mail anymore. What we as employees need to do, both craft and management, is work together for our future if we are to have one. We have to all give 100% if we are to survive. Those who aren't willing or able, on both sides, should leave.
Sad to see how fast these "discussions" go downhill in a hurry. The article had many good points that will affect the postal service. I thought that the most telling were the facts that Congress has not and will not repay its debts to the PO. Unfortunately, Congress by and large still has the attitude as much of the general public does about the PO. The attitude is that it's always been here for as long as I can remember so it can't possibly be in trouble. Yes, we make good money for what we do, but that is not the problem. We need significant changes in our ability to change our pricing structure. For the uninformed, all classes of mail are mandated to be self-sufficient, that is, we cannot use revenue from first class to prop up losses in standard mail. The whole idea that some claim that "average Joe" subsidizes the big mailers is total BS. The fact of the matter is that the USPS cannot survive without standard mail anymore. What we as employees need to do, both craft and management, is work together for our future if we are to have one. We have to all give 100% if we are to survive. Those who aren't willing or able, on both sides, should leave.
Hey 1010 sorry you didn't do to well. I am taking my 9.5% to the bank.
10:59 is proof that there is at least one person in the postal service with good sense. You know what? Us mailers really don't care how much you make or how great your benefits are. We're not out to get them. Really we're not.
But here's the bottom line: In 1970 Congress reorganized the Post Office Department into a quasi-government organization and mandated that they pay their own way through break-even revenue from rates.
UPS and FedEx both pay extremely well (probably better than the postal service) and have great benefits. Their rates are competitive, and yes they go up when need be. So why is it the postal service can't remain competitive with these services?
Two reasons. Congress mandates universal delivery for the postal service. The others don't have to deliver anywhere they don't want to, and they can charge more to go places they'd rather not. The other is that they require a very high standard from their employees in exchange for the pay.
The first reason can't be fixed entirely. But to level the playing field, the postal service should be able to charge extra for deliveries that have to be made by boat or sled dog.
The other requires a general waking up by the employees of the postal service - and I mean top to bottom. There are tons of management personnel "hiding" or riding around large chunks of the day. There are also minions of "professional injured" people in the labor ranks.
If the 10:50's of the world would make it unacceptable for their peers to behave that way, there would be no need for most of the management levels. Believe me, the sugar teat will dry up eventually - either through lower wages that reflect the benefit gained from your lazy portion of the work-force, or through shared awareness and hard work to change the playing field.
UPS and FedEx both have unions, so that's not the problem. Remember, you are not entitled to anything and nobody owes you a thing...
Very well said indeed, 11:33. I'm a business mailer who has to deal with a BMEU that has cut it's hours several times until it is now only open 6.5 hours per day, but still seems to need 2 supervisors to stand around, and most of the clerks move at a glacial pace - when they aren't on break. The corporate culture of the USPS has sunk pretty low, judging by the vast majority of the comments posted at these sites. And all the bitching about "junk mail" is about as ridiculous as a burger joint complaining about having to make so many french fries - especially when the fries are more and more of their core business every day. The USPS should institute a basic literacy test, as well. Half of these posters aren't smart enough to sane enough to do anything other than dig ditches and fill 'em back up again.
It's the customers on the receiving end who coined the term "junk mail." Most of them just don't want it. Clerks move at a "glacial pace" because of the computer system. I once timed a window clerk. She took 13 minutes to sell a book of stamps to a customer. She spent most of this time watching the computer screen and waiting for it to react to her input. I agree that "universal service" is a joke. We have an army of carriers marching through the slums in this country every day delivering a minuscule amount of real mail. Of course it will take an act of Congress to change this. I have noticed that a lot of our injuries happen in these slums, from dogs and people not removing ice from their sidewalks.
How loyal can an employee be to an embarassment of an employer? I don't give a damn about the USPS. A business that operates like the USPS would be bankrupt in a very short time. I'm gonna get as much as I can for as long as I can because of the lousy way I am treated as an employee.
The question is how in the world has the Post Office stay in business all of these years with worthless
employees that will rather go on breaks and talk about
retirement continuosly. These employees then will get
pay raises without merit, thanks to the worthless unions
that have failed to negotiate a contract in more than
20 years. Then of course, we have the worthless management bunch that can only work in those positions
in the Post Office simply because of affirmative
action and not because they are qualified. What a mess!
You have a bunch of lazy (not all) employees that are
there just to be there and get paid. Then, you have a
management team that don't know how to manage and last,
but not least, you have unions that are there for the
perks and unable to negotiate. How in the world can this
be? Only one solution. Privatize! Then, clean up the
entire work force and arrest management for impersonating leadership. Then, maybe, we can compete
with the real professionals such as UPS and FED EX.
I'd like to respond to a couple of comments... first of all the consumers didn't coin the phrase "junk mail", television news commentators did. And the newspapers and magazines jumped on the bandwagon even though they are large users of the medium. Why? because even though it works well for them, it competes for advertising dollars - and competes well I might add.
1:40 needs to find a real job. Sorry you're so ashamed to work for the oldest institution in the country.
Next, the unions aren't there for perks. They are there for themselves. They trick the employees into thinking that they are there for them. If they are so concerned, why don't they form up strictly of employees and not collect dues? Oh yeah, then they'd lose their cushy salaries and benefits. What do you get for it? Zip. Goose egg. Nada.
Privatization will never work because then you'd lose universal delivery. It ain't gonna happen. Congress couldn't stand the heat.
well after reading the article and the comments i guess there is only one thing left for the postal service to do..DIE BITCH.....
In my 10yrs as a letter carrier i have witnessed and read about alot of wasteful spending throughout the PO. The one that has to top the list is the number of carriers on light-duty. At the present time, 12 letter carriers in our office cannot perform the duties of a level 6 employee. More than half are permanent and will never perform the full functions of a letter carrier. I admit im no doctor, but from what i see, the aches and pains that keep these employees on light duty are the same aches and pain we all feel from a labor intense job. As a pro-union employee, who is thankful for the protections the NALC provides, my opinion on this subject leaves me in a catch-22. If i was ever truly injured on the job, to the point i could not carrier mail, i would hope the union would protect my job status. On the other hand, if the PO and my job are in jeopardy the ones that can't perform must go.
Congress should investigate NPA and chasing/manufacturing numbers just for the sake of lining your EAS pockets. If you EAS people got paid for jumping through 50 hoops in 2 minutes you would find a way to jump through 60!! The pathetic thing is you do what you do just for $$$, not because it is the right thing to do. Go tell your kids and your wives how good you are, but please spare the rest of us! A more conniving lot there is not - especially at the top.
Seems like some of the anti Post Office / anti worker posts are coming from non postal related people. Is this all you have to do loser. Stay away unless you know what you are talking about loser.
9:50PM
You are one sick person you should seek some help immediately.
I want to thank all the Craft workers who helped me get a 8.0% Raise this year. You all should think about getting into this Pay for Performance.
Does the word "lazy" seem to be in the majority of comments here? Go to hell with that word, I know that is a word made to make us think we are overpaid in benefits and salary. I know that "MOST" of us earn our salary and benefits in the Postal Service regardless of the blanket word "lazy" used in the comments on this board. Go to hell with the "lazy" comments, and walk a mile or stand a day in the shoes you call "lazy"!
In my vast experience with dealing with unions is they always protect the slugs, I imagine most of you who write in this column probably were protected what 12 times for being a slug.
11:48...
Did I touch a nerve, poor baby? I am a postal person, and I know exactly what goes on. Too bad Congress doesn't.
right on 10:26 !!!!!!!!
We got a lazy women in our office, as a carrier the only thing she can carry is her lazy ass to the bathroom . I've never seen a person crap as much as this women. We have had women carriers but they ALL cried and ran to their union. BOO HOO HOO. What a waste it is to hire a women. Forget the quotas and keep hiring men. White, black, yellow, red... It doesn't matter they are all better that a women!!!!
The worst slug I've seen in 25 years was a scab. He would rather die than join the union. Yet he enjoyed all union benefits without paying for them.
What union benefits? The only people enjoying union
benefits are unions' elected officials that gets lots
of the monies workers pay when they in turn do very
little work themselves. They laugh at us as they run
to the bank each payday.Ha,ha,ha,ha.
What union benefits???Do you think you'd make the money you do from the goodness of the Postal Services heart??
Give me a break!The union has won many perks and benefits for workers over the years!
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