As much as I normally slam managment for their usual stupidity, I feel obligated to break with tradition here. Kudos to Teri for coming off (in the article at least) as being appreciative of her carrier's efforts.
She recognizes that it takes longer to deliver in adverse conditions. Only the carriers at her station will know if she was just paying lip service to the media or not.
Yes, it's easier to stay warm than it is to cool off in extreme heat, although trying to warm up in the older LLV's takes some doing. Unlike the CRV's, an LLV has no heat by your feet. At the end of a winter's day both of my feet are frozen stumps....and that's after a lot of curbside delivery with the heat blasting!
Bottom line..extreme heat or cold...we still deliver!
rather be hot than cold. extreme cold for a long period of time can be very painful. LLV's are the worst designed vehicle for any weather extreme. To hot when it's hot, to cold when it's cold. Just right about one day each year.
30 years doing this carrying mail stuff kids...in both extremes....15 years in snowy, freaking sub-zero bone chilling, frostbite eating nose, ear and toes climate of northern Colorado, to the past 15 years of over 100 degree, dry, sweltering, desert dying for a drink of water heat here in southern Arizona. Which is worst?????? That's a NO BRAINER!!!! Why do you think I transferred here anyway????? My hat is always off, (even though now I risk getting melanoma instead of frostbite) to our brothers and sisters who have to endure the frigid arctic climates of the northern and eastern states! My fellow brothers and sisters here in Arizona can't even comprehend the stories I try to tell them of my previous experiences delivering in the Colo winter months! But they do stand in awe when I show them my frostbitten nose, ears, and little toes as proof of what mother nature in winter can do to a poor, unsuspecting letter carrier! Gortex, scuba gloves, icecleats, and handwarmers are always welcome.... Ooo baby it's cold outside....and we're not even through January yet....good luck to all you carriers that still have a long winter to look forward to...I feel your pain...(really)!
Both extremes are bad, but personally I'd rather be hot...besides, you're not delivering in 2 1/2 ft. of sand now are you ?
...and on those really cold days, I think what management would do if their desks were pushed outside and they tried to do their jobs in the wind and weather, without missing a beat.
Picture your Sup. trying to type reports on the keyboard with his mittens on !! HA !! - "What took you so long !!" HA HA
yes the article was right carriers deliver. and management knows it take s longer but in reality it better not take u longer . we know its not healthy to be outside in some tempatures because of the service talks they read to us . but take the dps to the street so u can be outside longer and remember the warm coffee to drink on your route but u better not go off the route to use the bathroom. the llv inside tempatures dont reach 30 degrees in the winter (and then your lucky if u get that) and are to hot in the summer. meanwhile your boss will go sit in his office drinking his warm coffee trying to figure out how to get u back sooner, use his private bathroom , turn up the heater he has under his desk and think of more ways to take equipment away from you to speed you up . and at the end of the year dont worry if you dont get a thank you card for all the work you did , because he will be in florida spending the bonuses we all earned for them with our hard work next month maybe we can try the four bundle system.
To 4:02, about twelve years your unions turned down a kind of bonus system, so get off of it already, management does not receive automatic step increases nor do they receive cola. Jump on your union as to why they turned it down, jealously will get you no where.
4:16 that crap you call is mail, mail pays your high salary, you knew what you were in for when you asked the PO for a job. So deliver the mail and do you job or quit.
8:21- In most companies workers do their job with the help and assistance of management.Only in the P.O must we do our jobs in spite of the obstacles constantly placed before us BY management. 8:23- So with your logic mamagement is paid to eat donuts and play computer games?
I can't understand why the USPS can't develope a decent vehicle for the carriers. In the North, if you had a four wheel drive with a good heater, that would take care of their needs. In the South and West, a front-wheel drive with air conditioning, would take care of their needs. The LLV or better known as POS, has got to be the worst vehicle we have had since the one ton chevys. Even the Ambassador was a better vehicle with posi-traction, and it had a heater (that worked). Next time the USPS want a new vehicle, how about asking some carriers for input. R.D. out...
4:16 is correct.We should have ALL the mail ready and in order BEFORE we go out, not try to juggle the what ever you want to call it, out on the street.It's called EFFICIENCY DUHHH!!Thank God I go in 5 yrs. 7 mos. and 12 days!!
The union is always involved when new delivery vehicles are being developed. Not every wish list can be accommodated, however. Personally, I liked the old ays when my customers used to greet me with a cold drink in the summer or a hot drink in the winter. Weather extremes are what they are and most experienced carriers know how to deal with it. Uniforms have gone to layering systems and if you know how to use it, it will help.
As far as managers helping out B/U employees, talk to your unions about Article 1.6 and see how warm and fuzzy they get about that concept.
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Cold? Try Scottsdale in July! A thermos of ice water boils in the back of the llv by 10am. Its always easier to stay warm than get cool..
As much as I normally slam managment for their usual stupidity, I feel obligated to break with tradition here. Kudos to Teri for coming off (in the article at least) as being appreciative of her carrier's efforts.
She recognizes that it takes longer to deliver in adverse conditions. Only the carriers at her station will know if she was just paying lip service to the media or not.
Yes, it's easier to stay warm than it is to cool off in extreme heat, although trying to warm up in the older LLV's takes some doing. Unlike the CRV's, an LLV has no heat by your feet. At the end of a winter's day both of my feet are frozen stumps....and that's after a lot of curbside delivery with the heat blasting!
Bottom line..extreme heat or cold...we still deliver!
no go ahead and call them slugs. mismanagement jerkoffs!!!
rather be hot than cold. extreme cold for a long period of time can be very painful. LLV's are the worst designed vehicle for any weather extreme. To hot when it's hot, to cold when it's cold. Just right about one day each year.
30 years doing this carrying mail stuff kids...in both extremes....15 years in snowy, freaking sub-zero bone chilling, frostbite eating nose, ear and toes climate of northern Colorado, to the past 15 years of over 100 degree, dry, sweltering, desert dying for a drink of water heat here in southern Arizona.
Which is worst?????? That's a NO BRAINER!!!! Why do you think I transferred here anyway?????
My hat is always off, (even though now I risk getting melanoma instead of frostbite) to our brothers and sisters who have to endure the frigid arctic climates of the northern and eastern states! My fellow brothers and sisters here in Arizona can't even comprehend the stories I try to tell them of my previous experiences delivering in the Colo winter months!
But they do stand in awe when I show them my frostbitten nose, ears, and little toes as proof of what mother nature in winter can do to a poor, unsuspecting letter carrier!
Gortex, scuba gloves, icecleats, and handwarmers are always welcome....
Ooo baby it's cold outside....and we're not even through January yet....good luck to all you carriers that still have a long winter to look forward to...I feel your pain...(really)!
...And management wants to get everybody out of the office assoonaspossible with 12 bundles of crap to organize outside!!??!!
Both extremes are bad, but personally I'd rather be hot...besides, you're not delivering in 2 1/2 ft. of sand now are you ?
...and on those really cold days, I think what management would do if their desks were pushed outside and they tried to do their jobs in the wind and weather, without missing a beat.
Picture your Sup. trying to type reports on the keyboard with his mittens on !! HA !! - "What took you so long !!" HA HA
yes the article was right carriers deliver. and management knows it take s longer but in reality it better not take u longer . we know its not healthy to be outside in some tempatures because of the service talks they read to us . but take the dps to the street so u can be outside longer and remember the warm coffee to drink on your route but u better not go off the route to use the bathroom. the llv inside tempatures dont reach 30 degrees in the winter (and then your lucky if u get that) and are to hot in the summer. meanwhile your boss will go sit in his office drinking his warm coffee trying to figure out how to get u back sooner, use his private bathroom , turn up the heater he has under his desk and think of more ways to take equipment away from you to speed you up . and at the end of the year dont worry if you dont get a thank you card for all the work you did , because he will be in florida spending the bonuses we all earned for them with our hard work next month maybe we can try the four bundle system.
Anyone dumb enough to deliver mail for over 30 years has got to be a IDIOT!
We know who YOU are. :-)
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To 4:02, about twelve years your unions turned down a kind of bonus system, so get off of it already, management does not receive automatic step increases nor do they receive cola. Jump on your union as to why they turned it down, jealously will get you no where.
4:16 that crap you call is mail, mail pays your high salary, you knew what you were in for when you asked the PO for a job. So deliver the mail and do you job or quit.
Your paid to be cold plus you get a clothing allowance, what did you think your job consisted of sitting at Burger King all afternoon?
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8:21- In most companies workers do their job with the help and assistance of management.Only in the P.O must we do our jobs in spite of the obstacles constantly placed before us BY management.
8:23- So with your logic mamagement is paid to eat donuts and play computer games?
*management*
In REALITY, management IS the obstacle.
I can't understand why the USPS can't develope a decent vehicle for the carriers. In the North, if you had a four wheel drive with a good heater, that would take care of their needs. In the South and West, a front-wheel drive with air conditioning, would take care of their needs. The LLV or better known as POS, has got to be the worst vehicle we have had since the one ton chevys. Even the Ambassador was a better vehicle with posi-traction, and it had a heater (that worked). Next time the USPS want a new vehicle, how about asking some carriers for input. R.D. out...
The test drove these vehicles I think in Houston, and to all the carriers who delivered the mail in the freezing weather, my hats off to you.
4:16 is correct.We should have ALL the mail ready and in order BEFORE we go out, not try to juggle the what ever you want to call it, out on the street.It's called EFFICIENCY DUHHH!!Thank God I go in 5 yrs. 7 mos. and 12 days!!
The union is always involved when new delivery vehicles are being developed. Not every wish list can be accommodated, however. Personally, I liked the old ays when my customers used to greet me with a cold drink in the summer or a hot drink in the winter. Weather extremes are what they are and most experienced carriers know how to deal with it. Uniforms have gone to layering systems and if you know how to use it, it will help.
As far as managers helping out B/U employees, talk to your unions about Article 1.6 and see how warm and fuzzy they get about that concept.
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