Circle of Safety?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
The Union stooge was probably day dreaming about his next Krispy Kreme and was still mad about his supervisor only approving 3 hours of OT instead of the 9 requested on the '96 because of "Heavy Mail"....
Of course, its not the carriers fault, he is only a "victim" of the hell hole created by the NALC. In the America of 30 years ago, we could do anything, now the Union demands that we do nothing, and get paid for it. How sad.....................
how about consider the fact that if management would have hired enough people to put one person in front of every job instead of forcing carriers to work past 5:00 when it starts to get dark this might not have happened.
I only say this as a response to your idiodic post. Now is not the time to lay blame rather now is the time to pray for the family of this young person tragically struck down and make sure this doesn't happen where you work. Awareness can prevent many incidents like this.
The poor child was killed by the negligence of its parents not by a postal truck. Let's put the blame where it belongs! Don't like the truth? Too damn bad. I grieve with the poor parents, but it is still their fault.
12:40...YOU sired this mentality..not the union. 2:38... I do respect you.. Pometheus05 : " To be preventable is ..only an assumption '... of NOT being there at that moment. Everything IS preventable even... 5:00 pm del. It took the life of a Letter Carrier one year ago. We..@ Rochester, MN have just been authorized to start later...07;30 and STILL..meet the pick-up of 5:00. We @ Roch. Mn have patiently delt with..abuse of power..altering Federal- Govt. documents (ie:time keeping...Annual Leave ( WRITTEN in as SICK LEAVE).. All have been documented/recorded ..AND..reported to our..DISPUTE RESOLUTION team..guess what ???? These individuals are STILL with us at BEAR CREEK and ROCH. MAIN PO... They ALL DEMAND us to be back at 5:00. They even admited that our Distribution Plant has failed at their end and.....THE PUBLIC SUFFERS
If anbody ever doubts why the public views "us" the way they do, one just has to read this putrid dialogue. So that's how your mothers & fathers raised you, to spend your little life finding someone to blame for anything. If you are unable to sue your parents for mal practice, at least see to it YOU disable yourself from procreation. I'm told it's a painless operation. Do the rest of the world a big favor. Did I hear someone say where to send a donation FBO the family of the victim? I didn't think so. That would be an act of a responsible citizen. Don't everybody raise their hand at once. Also, was the carrier traumatized? Is he/she undergoing treatment or care - can this person perform their duties? This person could suffer life long depression and never recover fully to live as they have. And what about the collateral effect on the spouse and children of our co worker? NOT YOUR CONCERN, RIGHT?. That would be the act of a responsible employee. Don't everybody step forward at the same time. You might tip the scales in favor of a humanistic behavior in the workplace. But then we'd have no use for our silly adolescent militantcies on both sides of the labor/mgmt fence. Go tell the little child about the problems we have working together. Oh that's right, you can't he's dead. Maybe next time. Right.
I don't think anyone could believe that the carrier intentionally disregarded safety measures to avoid this tragedy. It was probably a normal business as usual day like many over the years where you just don't imagine something like this happening. I feel for the carrier as I can imagine having to see the dead child and the grieving parents at the scene knowing you killed the child unintentionally and are now helpless to even console the parents. Any administrative or legal action taken against this carrier will be trivial compared to the memories that will haunt the carrier for the rest of his life. As a Postmaster I had to identify one of my carriers who was killed in a car accident on the route and seeing my deceased employee and friend still in the vehicle haunts me to this day. Multiply that 100 times and it still doesn't compare with what this carrier will go thru the rest of his/her life. We need to quit blaming and start praying. They all need it.
I have seen young casual men drive the postal trucks like a bat out of hell. They were in such a damn hurry that they could have cared less if they hit a child, animal whatever. This attitute is reckless and careless and totally uncalled for.
To 09:23, "...quit blaming and start praying..." Nicely put. I wish I'd said that. You are hereby exempt from my previous remark about becoming a gelding. I have never forgotten the shock of attending the wake of a young boy whose father I worked with. Crushed to death under a truck as he rode off the sidewalk into the street. I think it was 5 ton private delivery vehicle. I never saw a coffin so small, before or since. Hope I NEVER do. Good post. -06:17
To 09:23, "...quit blaming and start praying..." Nicely put. I wish I'd said that. You are hereby exempt from my previous remark about becoming a gelding. I have never forgotten the shock of attending the wake of a young boy whose father I worked with. Crushed to death under a truck as he rode off the sidewalk into the street. I think it was 5 ton private delivery vehicle. I never saw a coffin so small, before or since. Hope I NEVER do. Good post. -06:17
To 09:23, "...quit blaming and start praying..." Nicely put. I wish I'd said that. You are hereby exempt from my previous remark about becoming a gelding. I have never forgotten the shock of attending the wake of a young boy whose father I worked with. Crushed to death under a truck as he rode off the sidewalk into the street. I think it was 5 ton private delivery vehicle. I never saw a coffin so small, before or since. Hope I NEVER do. Good post. -06:17
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Circle of Safety?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
The Union stooge was probably day dreaming about his next Krispy Kreme and was still mad about his supervisor only approving 3 hours of OT instead of the 9 requested on the '96 because of "Heavy Mail"....
Of course, its not the carriers fault, he is only a "victim" of the hell hole created by the NALC. In the America of 30 years ago, we could do anything, now the Union demands that we do nothing, and get paid for it. How sad.....................
12:40
how about consider the fact that if management would have hired enough people to put one person in front of every job instead of forcing carriers to work past 5:00 when it starts to get dark this might not have happened.
I only say this as a response to your idiodic post. Now is not the time to lay blame rather now is the time to pray for the family of this young person tragically struck down and make sure this doesn't happen where you work. Awareness can prevent many incidents like this.
12:40, you are an idiot.The article is about the death of a child & your post has nothing to do with anything of intelligence.
The poor child was killed by the negligence of its parents not by a postal truck. Let's put the blame where it belongs! Don't like the truth? Too damn bad. I grieve with the poor parents, but it is still their fault.
12:40...YOU sired this mentality..not the union.
2:38... I do respect you..
Pometheus05 : " To be preventable is ..only an assumption '... of NOT being there at that moment.
Everything IS preventable even... 5:00 pm del.
It took the life of a Letter Carrier one year ago.
We..@ Rochester, MN have just been authorized to
start later...07;30 and STILL..meet the pick-up of
5:00. We @ Roch. Mn have patiently delt with..abuse of
power..altering Federal- Govt. documents (ie:time keeping...Annual Leave ( WRITTEN in as SICK LEAVE)..
All have been documented/recorded ..AND..reported to our..DISPUTE RESOLUTION team..guess what ???? These
individuals are STILL with us at BEAR CREEK and ROCH.
MAIN PO... They ALL DEMAND us to be back at 5:00.
They even admited that our Distribution Plant has failed at their end and.....THE PUBLIC SUFFERS
The accident was preventable.
If anbody ever doubts why the public views "us" the way they do, one just has to read this putrid dialogue.
So that's how your mothers & fathers raised you, to spend your little life finding someone to blame for anything. If you are unable to sue your parents for mal practice, at least see to it YOU disable yourself from procreation. I'm told it's a painless operation. Do the rest of the world a big favor.
Did I hear someone say where to send a donation FBO the family of the victim?
I didn't think so. That would be an act of a responsible citizen. Don't everybody raise their hand at once.
Also, was the carrier traumatized? Is he/she undergoing treatment or care - can this person perform their duties? This person could suffer life long depression and never recover fully to live as they have. And what about the collateral effect on the spouse and children of our co worker?
NOT YOUR CONCERN, RIGHT?. That would be the act of a responsible employee. Don't everybody step forward at the same time.
You might tip the scales in favor of a humanistic behavior in the workplace. But then we'd have no use for our silly adolescent militantcies on both sides of the labor/mgmt fence.
Go tell the little child about the problems we have working together. Oh that's right, you can't he's dead.
Maybe next time. Right.
I don't think anyone could believe that the carrier intentionally disregarded safety measures to avoid this tragedy. It was probably a normal business as usual day like many over the years where you just don't imagine something like this happening. I feel for the carrier as I can imagine having to see the dead child and the grieving parents at the scene knowing you killed the child unintentionally and are now helpless to even console the parents. Any administrative or legal action taken against this carrier will be trivial compared to the memories that will haunt the carrier for the rest of his life. As a Postmaster I had to identify one of my carriers who was killed in a car accident on the route and seeing my deceased employee and friend still in the vehicle haunts me to this day. Multiply that 100 times and it still doesn't compare with what this carrier will go thru the rest of his/her life. We need to quit blaming and start praying. They all need it.
I have seen young casual men drive the postal trucks like a bat out of hell. They were in such a damn hurry that they could have cared less if they hit a child, animal whatever. This attitute is reckless and careless and totally uncalled for.
To 09:23,
"...quit blaming and start praying..."
Nicely put. I wish I'd said that. You are hereby exempt from my previous remark about becoming a gelding.
I have never forgotten the shock of attending the wake of a young boy whose father I worked with. Crushed to death under a truck as he rode off the sidewalk into the street. I think it was 5 ton private delivery vehicle.
I never saw a coffin so small, before or since.
Hope I NEVER do.
Good post. -06:17
To 09:23,
"...quit blaming and start praying..."
Nicely put. I wish I'd said that. You are hereby exempt from my previous remark about becoming a gelding.
I have never forgotten the shock of attending the wake of a young boy whose father I worked with. Crushed to death under a truck as he rode off the sidewalk into the street. I think it was 5 ton private delivery vehicle.
I never saw a coffin so small, before or since.
Hope I NEVER do.
Good post. -06:17
To 09:23,
"...quit blaming and start praying..."
Nicely put. I wish I'd said that. You are hereby exempt from my previous remark about becoming a gelding.
I have never forgotten the shock of attending the wake of a young boy whose father I worked with. Crushed to death under a truck as he rode off the sidewalk into the street. I think it was 5 ton private delivery vehicle.
I never saw a coffin so small, before or since.
Hope I NEVER do.
Good post. -06:17
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